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their guest Duke Snider here's another
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chapter of double play with durocher and
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welcome to another visit with baseball's
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most exciting and controversial couple
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Lorraine day and Leo de Rocher with
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their guest for today Duke Snyder
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you know you fans have heard a good deal
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about the signs that a manager gives to
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his players during a game later on in
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Today's Show Leo Lorraine and their
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famous guest Duke Snider are going to
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delve into these signs and are going to
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try and give you a little inside
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information about them but first here's
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a little inside information just for you
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and now back to double play with Leo
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durocher and Lorraine day and their
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guest Duke Snider hi there everyone on
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this show you're going to meet that
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famous center fielder from the Brooklyn
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Dodgers Mr Duke Snyder and don't forget
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that I'm here to represent you fans and
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today I am representing particularly
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Juanita white from Oklahoma City who
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would like to know by manager Dresden
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clears the Brooklyn bench so much this
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last season and Charlie hatch from Ogden
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Utah who would like to know why did Leo
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to Sheldon Jones to pitch the second
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game of the playoffs and Bonnie Young
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from Las Vegas who says that I'd like to
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know something about the signs that the
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manager gives to a pitcher and a hitter
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never can spot them let's find out about
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Leo come on Duke let's go over here and
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dude what's your real name Edwin Edwin
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how do they call on YouTube uh my father
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started that when I was very young and
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stuck with me ever since it has nothing
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to do with baseball no I don't believe
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so well Duke um I think you should
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answer this question since you were on
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the Brooklyn team uh if I did manage
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your dress and clear the Brooklyn bench
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Charlie cleared the bench mainly because
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he didn't want any more players thrown
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out we we were known to have quite a
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loud bench in dating the umpires quite a
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bit and Charlie thought it might be a
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good idea if they're all in the
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clubhouse so that if we needed someone
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in an important situation well he could
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get them rather than have them out of
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the game in the shower well couldn't you
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have just said be quiet that's pretty
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hard to do some of the up bars in our
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league yes I'm acquainted with some of
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them it seems to me didn't it wasn't
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there a big rhubarb that comes right
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here she says there's a PS it says who
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why I don't know there might be uh
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termites in that door up there or
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something because all of us are in the
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shower must have been very exciting
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though just reading about it in the
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paper it was made a good story even
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though it wasn't true well Leo we have a
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question here for you from Charlie hatch
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who wants to know why did you choose
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Sheldon Jones to pitch the second game
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of the playoffs Duke why don't you take
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a look death that I think Joan I sure
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was I didn't get any hits that David I
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was tickled to death about it a lot of
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well I'll tell you uh I remember very
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well that I had pitched magaly and
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Jansen the last two days of the season
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and that you had said to me dear who are
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you going to pitch today and I told you
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and you told me that the good Lord
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hadn't taken us this far to cast us
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aside to uh get down on my knees and say
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a prayer and that uh he would tell us
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who he would tell me who to pitch and uh
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you know Duke I was afraid to leave the
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bedroom without doing it so I did get
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down on my knees and I went to the
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ballpark and I pitched Sheldon Jones and
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you know what happened you beat me 10 or
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nothing and I remember coming out after
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the game and getting in the car and on
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the way home Lorraine said well that's
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the way the good Lord wanted it he wants
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you to win it the hard way and of course
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my answer was why couldn't he let us win
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today just so I could sleep tonight make
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it easy for once but you know uh that
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little of that little story when we were
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being beaten 10 to nothing and all I
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could remember ordering the game with
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and I told Leo to get down on his knees
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and he would be told who to pitch and so
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he pitches Jones and I said I'm really
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going to get it out in the car tonight
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you know going about the Lord told him
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to pitch Jones and he asked on my
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suggestion uh but Leo was wonderful
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because when he came out in the car he
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said you know he wanted me to pitch
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Jones to save maglee for tomorrow
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because we couldn't get a hit off Levine
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and if we put Maggie in I'd have lost a
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great pitcher for tomorrow because we
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just couldn't hit this wonderful picture
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all the mine was great that day Duke
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that was the best pitch ball game I
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think one of the best that we had
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pitched against us all year he had a
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great curveball and I made the wrong
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guess but of course you know no but you
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didn't that's the whole point you didn't
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guess wrong it wasn't right yet because
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you couldn't win that game anyway we
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couldn't hit Levine I would have rather
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had a good night's sleep if we'd have
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gotten a few runs you know I would say
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if magley came in or jammed and just as
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you said what good does it do to have
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them in not if Brooklyn gets 10 runs it
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doesn't make any difference who you pick
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that's right see so everything turned
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out right and I'm in the clear you see
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Duke I'm telling you you don't have to
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worry about who manages the club you'll
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know who manages the club oh this is
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what he keeps saying so after all an
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important decision I never get to open
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Bonnie Young wants to know something
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about the signs that the manager gives
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to the pitchers and the hitters well
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first let's take the signs that a
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manager gives to the pitcher he doesn't
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really give a sign to a picture does he
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doesn't get no uh the catcher controls
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the game he gives all signs once in a
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while a manager may call for a certain
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pitch during a game well what does the
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catcher tell him to pitch the new Zeal
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well whatever it is is wrong we ought to
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it's a better thing if you just forget
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Musial and Duke and those kind of hits
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and Pitch underneath the plate or behind
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yes oh yeah there was a big rhubarb
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about it as I remember
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it's just what Duke knows it's one of
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those things you you try to put your man
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high and tight you just can't thread the
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eye of the needle all the time and you
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you get it a little farther in than you
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really want it to be but now about this
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giving signs to the uh to The Hitter
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I've been trying to find out these lines
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for three years well I'll tell you what
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we'll do uh when I imagine Brooklyn do
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played for me Iron Duke how about this
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I'll give you some signs
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bat right there Duke and we'll go
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through the signs and we'll see if you
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can get them okay you've always wanted
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to know and we'll answer the question at
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the same time all right and then if I
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get them is it a promise that I'll give
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them to you next season from the box oh
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you've been doing it now for a couple of
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years I don't see why you won't continue
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before Leola rain and Duke give you the
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lowdown on baseball signs here's the
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lowdown on something very special
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and now back to Leo Lorraine and Duke
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Snyder of the Brooklyn Dodgers
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Leo is about to perform some of the
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signs which he gives his players on the
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playing field and we're going to try and
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catch some of these and describe them to
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all right you're going to get the
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science is going to do what you call and
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you'll give him again and
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see all right all right here's the First
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Signal now we'll try and follow it along
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Leo first touches his cap with his right
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hand he brings a hand down to his chest
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then he adjusts his belt his right hand
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goes back to his cap hit and run that's
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the hit and run okay all right yeah
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this time Leo performs the signal with
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his left hand he starts it with a hand
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resting on the letters on his chest now
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he goes down to Jess's belt rushes off
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his left knee back to his belt again and
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the left hand finally comes to rest on
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the letters on his chest fun
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here's the next signal he hitches up his
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parents claps his hand goes back to the
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visor of his cap hitches up his pants
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again and takes one step to the right
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don't tip her off not dude all right now
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we'll start again I'll give you another
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one are you ready I'm ready Leo takes
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his right hand and touches his cap he
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brings the hand down to his chest Leo's
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left hand now just his belt claps his
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hands together and takes one step to the
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left and finally the hand goes back to
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his cap now that's the hit and run am I
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right or wrong how did you know it was
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yes you've got to know what you're doing
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you can't make a mistake every time
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although I don't all right here you are
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go ahead Leo performs these signals very
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fast and it's rather difficult to catch
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them left hand first rest on his chest
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where the letters would be next to his
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belt and the Hand comes back to his
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chest again now that's the hit and run
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Duke will tell you what it is that's the
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bun all right you want to see one more
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yes we have another one okay all right
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he brushes his right knee the hand goes
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back to his belt touches his chest again
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that must be the take that's right that
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is the tape what made you guess
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I don't know honestly I couldn't tell
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the difference now show me actually what
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you do for a hit and run well for a hit
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and run our hit and run sign happens to
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be if I had a cap on I was using before
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it for a cap and say that I start and
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stop in the same position anything I do
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in between means nothing in other words
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I touch him at cat boom boom boom boom
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now you didn't give a sign yes I did but
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you said it I started and stopped on my
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cap which is Hit and Run
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but you said I of whatever I do between
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the time I touch myself
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when did you get the hit and run I
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started and stopped on my cap that's hit
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and run I see now this is nothing
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in other words it's a take put it on
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take it off if I start I must come back
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to that same place all right now I
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understand if you wanted him hit and run
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you'd start with your cap and whatever
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you did doesn't mean a thing but coming
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back to your cap means the Duke must hit
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and run on that ball he must swing at it
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and try to protect the runner then I'm
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sending the runner and I want him to hit
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okay no matter where the ball is he must
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swing it all right but if you didn't
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come back to your hatties he's on his
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Paul coming back starting and coming
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back to it I can confuse the opposing
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player the coaches or the manager who
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actually the manager's wife always
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he could also have a call-off sign if
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you give the sign all the way through
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maybe and then a class that's right and
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that would call it off even though he
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gives the whole sign well what was
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brethon doing all the time he was
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whistling well that is more or less a
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decoy Lorraine he doesn't give any signs
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when he does that well you know I was
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always under the impression that when he
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whistled it meant that uh perhaps he
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caught a signal from the pitcher you
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know and was saying here comes the fast
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one I really shouldn't say anything
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about that but he does give them yes and
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how I was going to cut right in there he
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does catch him once in a while he's the
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greatest in the business he's the
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greatest third base coach I've ever seen
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well tell me what about a bunk Now show
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me the bunk sign well look look your eye
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uh I showed you the way the manager
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gives them and uh let's do why don't you
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sure uh the way when you played for me
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and I was to give you the bunch then go
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ahead and show her exactly what the bunt
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the bus sign was the letters uh we don't
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have any letters here but you know the
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Giants and the Dodgers have crossed here
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yeah the butt was with the letters you
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had to start and stop there you can do
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anything else you want but you've got to
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go back to the letters and stop there
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that matters well now tell me couldn't
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say an opposing player couldn't he just
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watch where you ended and know what the
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sign was the next time you did it I know
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you see the sign and then he'd see the
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hitter bump he saw that you ended with
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the letter well wouldn't he say well the
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next time they end there that's the bun
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well it could be changed
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you could I could do this and and fool
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around and with any part of my body and
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go back here and maybe then I'd take a
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to the right or step forward or clap my
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hands and holler come on or something
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that could be a call-off sign and then
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well there is one sign
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just what is the sign that means hit a
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listen I'll see you next step
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what are you gonna do
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you ever listening to another chapter of
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Rocher today Lorraine and Leo had as
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