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Durocher & Day with Casey Stengel
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Dec 20, 2024
In the 1950s, Leo Durocher and his wife Laraine Day hosted a 15-minute Show when he managed the New York Giants interviewing other players, managers, and even the commissioner of baseball. Leo was always a controversial player and manager. You can take a deeper dive into his career and listen to other interviews, games he played in and highlights on This Day In Baseball: LEo's Page - https://thisdayinbaseball.com/leo-durocher-page/ • This Day In Baseball - Learn more about the players, teams and seasons Classic Broadcasts are old-time broadcasts that have been put together from various sources. Many are found on the Internet Archives in a raw form. If you wish to take a deeper dive, that includes: Scorecards, Rosters, Newspaper Clippings. All members can jump over to : www.vintagebaseballreflections.com and join the membership platform
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from day to Rocher to Stengel it's
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another chapter of double play with the
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roshera day
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welcome to another visit with baseball's
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most exciting and controversial couple
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Lorraine day and Leo durocher with their
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guest for today Casey stangel fans we
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have a very touchy subject to settle
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here today the rumor that Leo talks too
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much made by some irresponsible people
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whom we suspect to be Dodger fans has
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reached Leo's sensitive ears
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this hurts Leo's feelings
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now he wants to bring this issue out in
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the open with his guest for today Casey
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stangel another quiet soft-spoken
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well-mannered baseball figure Casey do I
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talk too much
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well Leo to tell you the truth you talk
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too much and you guys the loudest voice
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of anybody that I ever heard that was
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managing on a ball field well maybe Leo
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shouldn't have mentioned the subject at
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all
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but here's a subject well worth
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mentioning
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[Applause]
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and now back to double play with Leo
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durocher and Lorraine day and their
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guest for today Casey stangel let me ask
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you a question Kate you've won three
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American League pennants you've won
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three worlds championships how about me
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next year you're going to give me a
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chance well to tell you the truth Leo I
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should say that we'll give you a great
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chance it's a big city you know you must
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have a chance when your Club can win two
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games in the world's championship in
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other words that's outstanding because
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what other club in the other two World
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Series win two games
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how could you say a thing like that on
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other clubs oh I won two games you
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figure I'm lucky
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well no I said that maybe the dark you
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know how the days were there in the fall
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and uh then we had a rainy day maybe the
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rainy day help me I know we're lucky
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with that rainy day well maybe so uh
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maybe Leo knows something about it let
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me tell you something I got one thing on
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my mind I've had it ever since the
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series I'd like to see metal in right
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field instead of power that's all I know
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how do you know what I do if I had uh
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Mantle still out there you know mantle
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broke records too for distance and bar
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only hit his ball 410 feet you know that
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day but man will hit some 460 maybe he'd
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hit one 460. you can't though I don't
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know
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the ball hit by evars another thing even
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if it's hadn't been what do you mean are
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you on stangled side down my side well
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I'm on the sofa with tangle okay here on
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the stove
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with short stuff of course he covered
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the infield like a tent of course you
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get along without him too you didn't
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need him well I'll tell you Leo you know
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how you used to play shortstop you could
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go and catch the ball and throw the ball
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and you know that's the way rizzuta is
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and after that little man that you have
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playing second base what are you talking
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about stanky that's all right he just
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tagged the man I mean just gently and he
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happened to slide in and the ball was
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there it was an accident Casey well to
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tell you the truth I thought he broke
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his wrist and then it flew back in place
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and that's why the rain helped us on
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Sunday now you say it didn't help us
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that's why it helped a young boy to come
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back and be a great judge and how about
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that follow your hat pitching for you
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that left-hander who throws up that soft
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curve and the screwball and once in a
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while accidentally he may let you hit a
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fast one didn't somebody say that you
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could put all pictures against him and
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win well I just made the remark I'd
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rather put nine pictures in I think we'd
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have a better low Pat that's his name
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low cat two five hitters beat us both
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games well I'll tell you about Lopez
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he's such a small boy started you know
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as a first baseman and he found out the
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easiest thing to do is to go in there
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and pitch and use four curves he's got
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one definitely one this way and then he
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gives you that in any stance and makes
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you guess who you're coming he says oh
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you're a New York Giant you're a New
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York Giant and that's what I say he
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wasn't used to his rhythm I don't know
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he had my club crazy everybody trying to
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pull him and hit a home run and they
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were bouncing them back to him in a
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shortstop in the third baseman out out
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he's a great guy why don't you keep him
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on first base well I'll tell you you
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could have kept koslo out of there for a
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long time too Leo well he's pretty good
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I'll say that but uh I think the best
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team won in the World Series Casey he
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had a great ball bubbling you played
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great and we did the best we could just
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wasn't good enough that's all right now
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that you're through handing out the
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bouquets and you have collected them
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would you ask answer a question I want
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to know about because I was in New York
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the team was on the road and actually I
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wasn't helping Leo manage that day he
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was on his own but anyway I was watching
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a game and it was raining and you were
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playing the White Sox and if there
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wasn't the biggest rhubarb because then
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it seems to me that you Mr Casey stingle
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was stalling at least that's what I said
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in the paper now I want to know all
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about this
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well you have a little argument there Mr
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Richards was playing
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very uh good with his ball Club as he
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was the outstanding manager the first
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two months of the season with the White
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Sox and uh naturally when you have a
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club playing good you have everybody
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pulling for that ball Club so they came
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into the Yankee Stadium after a
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successful trip East and unfortunately
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the weather got Cloudy and the rain
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started down and they started to make a
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few runs ahead at this time oh yes they
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got a head off in there and it looked
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like they might win the game but I'll
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tell you because of my age I had to go
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out and take the picture out you know
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how old I am I'm around
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and when it's rainy weather I get sort
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of rheumatism man I just go even longer
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that's it slowly out to the mound and I
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made four or five switches of a pitcher
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and of course Mr Richard switched four
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or five hitters and then I would have to
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say that the man above had rain come and
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of course I wanted to finish the game
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we had to sit in the clubhouse and take
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the game
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so that's my story double play takes
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time out now for this message
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and now back to double play with
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derosher a day don't you think honestly
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in-depth aside of all is it maybe the
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rules should be changed I read so much
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about that that they should not allow a
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game to be called and uh has to Forfeit
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the game because of rain that it should
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be postponed to the next day or the next
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time the clubs meet what do you two
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managers think about that would you like
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to I know to to answer uh Casey I know
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that uh in 1941 when we won the pennant
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and I was managing the Brooklyn baseball
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club we were playing in Cincinnati and
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Larry Getz who's behind the plate and
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the score was uh nothing to nothing in
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the 16th inning and we scored five runs
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in our half of the 16th inning and it
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was pitch dark and in those days they
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weren't allowed to turn the lights on
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and mckechney started to stall and I
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know that in the last half of the 16th
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inning I couldn't see my outfielers and
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I put Hugh Casey in the pitch to finish
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up the 16th inning and he walked three
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men in a row and I worked all jittery
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and jumping and nervous and I run out
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there and I said come on Julie take your
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time get the ball over there and Larry
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get said to me we're going to finish
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this game if we have to put lights on
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our caps he said they stall and we're
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going to finish it if we play it till
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midnight and we did finish it and we
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beat them five to one all right now that
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rule has been changed now they can turn
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off I can turn the lights because of
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Darkness that's right well don't you
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think that the same rule should apply to
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rain well it did could but that's an act
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of God when you have a rain come down
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like that and it's it's something that
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the ball clubs or ball players have
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nothing to do with darkness is an act of
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God too I mean but still you postponed
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the game and play it off another time no
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you turn the lights on now we change the
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rule that's right well so why can't you
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change the rule here why suddenly just
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well I don't think they will because
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then you take all the fun out of the
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game I remember a few years ago Frankie
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fresh when he was managing the
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Pittsburgh club uh he built a fire on
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the bench because it got so dark he fill
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a bonfire naturally they threw him right
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out of the ballpark another time during
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a rain like Casey had against Richards
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at the stadium he took shooting
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stockings off and roll up roll up his
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pants and borrowed an umbrella and went
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out the coach with an umbrella naturally
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got thrown out of the park haven't you
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ever been thrown out for any of those
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hijinks I hear that you're quite a uh
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character on the ball diamond with those
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things well I had to change my ways uh
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it seemed that I was catching up with
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the umpires before they could catch up
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with me and finally they the fires went
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past me so many times that uh with me
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I've been on the ball field that uh
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really and truly I used to be the best
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spectator on my club and I was managing
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it I never got to sit on the bench often
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I generally sit in the grandstand and
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they decided that they'd prefer me to
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run the club from the bench so I'm a
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changed man now you have dignity I'll
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tell you another thing Casey you must
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have had a really good uh uh scouting
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report on my ball Club in the World
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Series because I don't know how you
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pitched so well against us what about
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that Dodger report I've asked you a
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million times how come it's that Dodger
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report on this Yankees were so good how
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come we didn't beat him very good thank
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you very much
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a minute there was nothing wrong with
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the report Andy High gave us a great
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report it was thorough and we read it
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and thought words and backwards well we
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believed it but we just couldn't get the
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ball in the right place and after all
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the as Casey tells you you know he has
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it on his neck tie here Yankees and uh
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it was one of those things and maybe we
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got the ball low and it should have been
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high but I don't know what it was they
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just defeated us but we did have a good
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report on it I know Casey he must have
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had a better one on our club tell me
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Casey did your scout scout our club or
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did they Scout the Dodgers
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well to be honest with you Lorraine we
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scouted the Dodgers because they had
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such a good lead we didn't uh look for
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the New York Giants to win the pen I
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know I saw in the program
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um you know in the World Series program
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it said uh Yogi Berra this is his third
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time playing against the Dodgers in a
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World Series and here we were in it
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did I hear you right you scouted the
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Dodgers and not the Giants that's true
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what did you what happened I mean you
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didn't think we had a chance well of
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course the last week that we started to
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follow your Club Leo naturally we
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figured that she'd gone a long ways for
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two months and a quarter and we thought
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she was going to blow the kite but you
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didn't and uh after you made your uh
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last appearance and win then we really
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got serious we had to play wait three
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days in the playoffs and then get down
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to business well let me tell you
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something Kate We snuck in there a
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little bit didn't we we sort of food you
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huh hey fellas well yeah I know it's one
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of those things
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I'll never be able to break this up this
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is the way they keep in training for
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those umpires anyway it's it's time for
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us to say goodbye now and don't forget
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to continue writing to me tell me about
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the questions you'd like me to ask
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that is if anyone on this hot still
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League session will listen for a couple
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of minutes so long see you next week
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of double play with baseball's most
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exciting couple Lorraine day and Leo
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durocher today Lorraine and Leo had as a
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guest Casey stangel join us once again
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it's time for double play with Leo
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