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Durocher and Day with Sal Maglie
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Dec 20, 2024
In the 1950s, Leo Durocher and his wife Laraine Day hosted a 15-minute Show when he managed the New York Giants interviewing other players, managers, and even the commissioner of baseball. Leo was always a controversial player and manager. You can take a deeper dive into his career and listen to other interviews, games he played in and highlights on This Day In Baseball: LEo's Page - https://thisdayinbaseball.com/leo-durocher-page/ • This Day In Baseball - Learn more about the players, teams and seasons Classic Broadcasts are old-time broadcasts that have been put together from various sources. Many are found on the Internet Archives in a raw form. If you wish to take a deeper dive, that includes: Scorecards, Rosters, Newspaper Clippings. All members can jump over to : www.vintagebaseballreflections.com and join the membership platform
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this reflection on baseball history
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it's double play with durocher and day
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with their guest Sal magley here's
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another chapter of double play with
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durocher and day
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[Music]
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welcome to another visit with baseball's
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most exciting and controversial couple
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Lorraine day and Leo durocher with their
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guest for today Sal magley
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from a recent poll of baseball's most
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outstanding hitters it was established
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that the home run was the most difficult
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task to perform
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now Leo what's your opinion not so hard
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to do in 1938 in the All-Star Game I I
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hit a home run thank you Leo and uh
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Lorraine do you have anything to add to
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this it may read that way in the record
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book Mr durocher but the Home Run didn't
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go any further out than the pitcher's
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mound in fact it was a bunt Jimmy Fox
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picked it up and threw it to First
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Charlie Geringer forgot to cover and
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then Joe DiMaggio picked it up and threw
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it in the National League Dugout and
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while Hercules here was rounding the
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bases for this wonderful home run Casey
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stangle was dunking the ball in water
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well why did he do that Lorraine well he
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said it was too hot to handle
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but while you and Lorraine discuss this
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matter in private here's an important
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message
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and now back to double play with Leo
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durocher and Lorraine day and their
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guest for today Sal the barber Bagley hi
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there
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who are you no by now fans that our
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guest is the barber Sal magley and that
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we're getting ready for a few close
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shaves on this show and right off the
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bat cell I have a letter here is just
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signed a giant fan number one
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Indianapolis who says I think it was
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very unfair to ban the players for
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jumping to the Mexican League well I
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think we should ask you since you were
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one of those players who who was banned
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for jumping do you think it was unfair I
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went in it with my eyes open
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and uh most nasty for a financial
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reasons so when they banned me for five
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years I uh I deserved it but the way
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things broke out right at the present
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time I'm glad that it happened because I
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acquired quite a bit of experience in
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Mexico in my kitchenware did you feel
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you wouldn't have acquired here if you
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had stayed if you start two or three
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times you don't do so well why you never
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know when you get another start yes get
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the measure of yours well sharpened up
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because I want as many starts as you've
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had in the past and let's win some ball
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game well you mean there were so few
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pictures there that no matter how badly
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you did you still got the your regular
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chance to start that's right Lorraine uh
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I got my regular star out there and
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therefore I had to learn because most
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actually I don't like getting my ears
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pinned back we had a great manager he
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was a New York Giant coach Adolf Lucy
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one of the greatest curveball pitches in
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the majors I decided to learn how to
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pitch and uh he taught me just what the
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curveball was supposed to be for I'm not
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throw it in the middle of the plate to
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hit that outside corner and therefore I
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achieved that and I can thank Lord that
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that I did learn it and went to Mexico
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easy for a for a pin 30km
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30 games no it wasn't Lorraine because
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you have to start every fourth day and
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relieve and it's the only possible way
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you can win 30 games and you have to
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pitch against all the ball clubs like
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myself I had a lot of trouble with those
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bottom Place ball Club because I think I
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don't bear down as much as I would if I
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fish against Brooklyn you're telling me
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I have to go out there and stick a fork
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in you some of it down you get lazy
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especially when they give you a good
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lead
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I was on the club with him and uh dizzy
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not only started every fourth ball game
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but he relieved I know that he went in
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many a ball game when the score was tied
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after the other uh pitcher or pitchers
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at pitched 10 or 11 Innings and Dizz
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went in and we would win it in the next
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two and he'd get credit for the win and
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I say that in order to win 30 or more
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you really got to pitch every fourth day
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you've got to beat the top and the
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bottom clubs all the way down the line
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and you've got to have an awful lot of
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luck how many games did you start in
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1951 South well I started 38th ball
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games and how many times did you relieve
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I relieved exactly five ball games 1951.
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wow so it would have been pretty tough
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you can see that it sure would well
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speaking of winners we uh would like to
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have our sponsor tell you a few words
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right now about a winner
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now back to double play with durocher
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and day
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I think it might be very interesting to
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discuss uh nicknames your own for
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instance Sal how did you get the name of
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the barber it happened in St Louis uh
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with my I believe it was the second
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statue gave me Leo and you talked me
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into that too you had to pitch the well
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the first time I used you again well the
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reason why uh you don't have anybody
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else you know that
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about that I didn't have anyone else
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well I am too I'm not a barber in trade
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but uh and it has nothing to do with
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your being uh Italian no no it hasn't uh
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it happened in St Louis I pitched this
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peculiar game
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I uh left 13 men on bases allowed 11
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hits I walked seven one of my wild days
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and I beat him three to nothing
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so the next day I pick up the paper and
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I read Sal Maggie the barber
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so right away I see who wrote it it was
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Jim McCully from the news and uh
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I got a hold of him and Jim what's the
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idea of calling me the barber he's well
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selled in yesterday's game you sure gave
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us a close shave
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what I want to know is how were you
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feeling during this the Wild game that
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Sal was pitching you must have been up
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and down that Dugout in St Louis it's a
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rough Dugout and you have to go
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underneath to get to the water but I uh
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give you my word I made many a trip from
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that corner back underneath and back out
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before he got through as he says walking
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seven and eleven hits and 13 men left on
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me any given time we could have been
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beaten with a base hit you mean you
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could have pulled him out of that game
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at any given moment yes but he had won
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the start previous to this one and I
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just figured I'm going to let him go and
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he told you the truth and he said I
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didn't have anyone else well you know
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Sal isn't the only cool calm collected
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member of his family you know when he's
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out on the mound he looks so cold like
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he has ice water in these veins but his
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wife okay never gets worried in the
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stand she just sits there no matter what
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kind of trouble you're in and I look
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over to where she's sitting she just
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how can I be that way with you guys out
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there ball one ball too you don't have
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to worry I don't oh I know yeah we went
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we win a ball game one and nothing fans
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uh two to one 10-11 Innings and when the
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players all foul in the clubhouse they
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all look at me like I got four heads and
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they say we had them all the way going
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back to nicknames although I know you
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don't don't ask me how I got mine yes I
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want to know who gave it to you I must
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have given it yes but I it's been so
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long ago that I can't remember but it
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must be because I've barbered with the
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umpires and or with somebody or I was a
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fresh Pusher they told me I was fresher
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than paint when I first came up and I
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guess they were right and so one day I
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had come out in the paper lipidorocher
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and it stuck with me ever since do you
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like your nickname yes I do Leo doesn't
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like kids but uh nicknames are very
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interesting I think it's wonderful Bobby
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Thompson's is so colorful to be called
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The Royal Scott Express and what some of
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the other nicknames oh there's so many
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of them like Dizzy Dean and Daffy Dean
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and all those kind of names and the Wild
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Horse
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Daffy because he was a very quiet fellow
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dizzy just said I'm the big man in this
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family I'm dizzy and you're a Daphne
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well I love the the name that Sheldon
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has Sheldon Jones is available Jones and
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I asked him about it and he said well he
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said when I first came up uh the manager
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had used just about every picture there
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was and and he looked down the bench and
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he said well who's available and he said
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I stood up and he said I am what is some
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other nicknames come from
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why do they call Babe Babe Ruth for
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instance why didn't they call him George
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Rue well it's just one of those things
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honey I you're asking a lot of questions
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here how do we know what happened to
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nicknamese no I want to find this out
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because women I think are very
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interested in nicknames uh I think
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they're interested in the personalities
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the nicknames imply well I got some news
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for you Sally I'm full of my arms and
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looking at her she's gonna get the
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answer to any nickname she's going to
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have to come up with them herself
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because I don't know what she's talking
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about you don't I don't know I saw Gary
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the Iron Horse yes they called him the
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Iron Horse because he played in so many
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consecutive ball games over a span of
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years
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and we'll try and answer it all right
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well now let me think of somebody oh
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there you are the Wild Card the wild
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horses the Osage pepper Martin because
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when he run the dirt flew behind him and
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he Dove head first and he played the
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game rough and tough from the time it
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started until it was over it had nothing
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to do with us playing football nothing
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whatsoever to do with us playing
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football and Frankie Frisch of course
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was called the Fordham flash because he
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came from Fordham and that was right
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because he was a great football player
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now he he did have something to do with
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that he was the Fordham flash he was a
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great football player first year that's
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right and Alvin Blackie dark Blackie has
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where did he get that name is he has
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black hair oh I I think because his last
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name is dark so they have to have
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something all right in fact I never
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heard of Alvin my wife started reading
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about Alvin dark they always said Alvin
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Blacky dark all the women find all the
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things to read about the players that
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have got that thing very few women are
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ever interested in batting averages and
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the technical side of baseball and so
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the things they are interested are the
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personalities of the players how
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good-looking they are oh sure and I
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think both of you are very handsome now
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does that make you feel good so I had
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any more questions we'll answer anything
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for you now now I'm in huh but I want to
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know about which part do you prefer to
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pitch in
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he better prefer to pitch in all of them
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I know that well he must have some
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preference well I like the pitch in the
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big ballparks but the 500 feet in left
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field and 500 tonight
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get everything he wants three gazelles
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in the Outfield Four Guys absolutely
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impossible to hit a home run I think
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that all parks should be exactly the
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same to test the true value of a pitcher
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and a hitter I don't think that he he
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has any trouble in any ballpark a fellow
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that wins 23 and loses eight is that
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what you lost no Leo I lost a six where
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were you weren't you well I wasn't
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around I wasn't watching him honey I was
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I had my head down all day long when
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they were going on that drive but I
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follow the wins 23 and loses six he
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doesn't have too much to worry about in
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what ballpark oh very true well Sal it's
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been wonderful having you with us on our
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little show double play and I'm sure the
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fans enjoyed it and we enjoyed having
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the fans with us too and please ride and
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like us to ask any special guests and if
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we have them on our show if they can be
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with us we'll ask them okay see you next
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week same time same station
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you've been listening to another chapter
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of double play with baseball's most
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exciting couple Lorraine day and Leo
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durocher today Lorraine and Leo had as
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their guest Sal magley
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join us when again it's time for bubble
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play with Leo durocher and Lorraine day
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plus another Big Time guest star
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